I think my head has been under the rock as far as vs2005 WinForms UI design stuff is concerened. I was fiddling wtih Winforms the other day and wanted to put a line on the form and realized I still can't do it the old VB6 way. I just dropped a panel on instead and put the "below the line" stuff inside the panel. I want the line there at design time, so the GDI+ way wasn't my cup of tea.